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From: buddharabbit  1/26/2006 6:30 pm 
To: ALL  Poll (1 of 7) 
 6.1 
The "Mrs." debate: Brides and brides-to-be express their sense of individuality and tradition by changing, or not changing, names. What do you think?
Taking the husband's name is the right thing to do. Plus, it's fun.
Marriage is not the reason to change a name.
Hypenation is a good solution
I don't ever plan to get married, so this isn't a concern.
 

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From: Chana  2/4/2006 8:01 am 
To: buddharabbit unread  Poll (2 of 7) 
 6.2 in reply to 6.1 

I never planned to get married as a kid, and one reason was because I wrongly assumed the woman HAD to change her name. I loved my father and did not want to give up his name ever--I thought it would be a slap in the face to him.

But when I got older and learned that I did not have to legally change my name upon marriage, I decided to go ahead and get married. Fortunately, I met and married a man who, although very conservative, did not feel threatened by the name issue. Not only did I keep my last name, but our three children have both our surnames, joined by a hyphen. Our kids have met many other kids their age with hyphenated surnames, including in their classrooms, so it seems normal to them.

I would never, ever change my last name. To me, it tells the world I am my father's daughter, and that I am very proud of my ethnic and religious heritage. Also, my father never had any sons to carry on his name, but now he has a grandson who will do it.

My stance had absolutely nothing at all to do with feminism...in fact not only am I not a feminist, I am anti-feminist in many ways. You don't have to be a feminist to believe in keeping your last name!

Also, as a child I never understood WHY a woman should take her husband's name. What's marriage got to do with it? Does a woman change her favorite flavor of ice cream when she gets married? No? So why her name? A name is such an integral part of who you are...why give it away? It always sounded crazy to me and I was even willing to not ever get married because I once mistakenly thought that a woman had to take the man's name.

I had to fight long and hard to keep my name...not with my husband but with many in society who felt they had the "right" to change my name for me (as in documents, mail, etc.) It saddens me to see women today giving up their birth names so easily, when I know what I had to go through in the 1980s to hang onto mine. I am very militant about it because of my experiences. If a salesman calls and asks for "Mrs. His Name", I don't even acknowledge that I am who he means. I simply say, "There is no such person here by that name", and when my mother-in-law was still alive, I'd simply give him her phone number.

One amusing side effect of keeping my name is that (because I am more well-known than my husband), people often refer to him as "Mr. (My Last Name)". He thinks its funny and so do I.



Edited 2/4/2006 8:06 am ET by Chana
 
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From: uefamily  2/5/2006 6:51 pm 
To: buddharabbit unread  Poll (3 of 7) 
 6.3 in reply to 6.1 
Having been around for a while (I'm 56), I can say that we fought to give every woman the right to make certain decisions; so, women marrying today may change their name to the man's, or not. I guess I'm just disappointed the so many women today would take their man's name. After all, we're not owned by our husband's family anymore. I wonder how many men offer to take their woman's name? One solution would be to create a new name for that new family unit. I wonder why so many women would acquiesce today? Is it that following what they assume is "tradition" is easier than thinking about it? I asked mt three children, but they were all appalled that women to day would even want to give up their own family name; they couldn't understand the concept (we each kept our names and the children have a hyphenned last name). Then, I think about women that I've worked with who had to go through alot to get their name changed at work; sometimes, they missed afew pay periods until things got worked out. I also think about that percentage of women who will divorce, and then have to try to change their name back, or continue with the name of someone they might dislike. No,no, the couple should each stick with their own names!

Edited 2/5/2006 6:55 pm ET by uefamily
 
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From: Guest 2/5/2006 10:07 pm 
To: buddharabbit unread  Poll (4 of 7) 
 6.4 in reply to 6.1 

Not only did I not change my name, our daughter has my name too. I would never have changed my name, because I had a great one already. Getting married didn't make me a different person, so why would I want a different name?
I also correct anyone who calls me Mrs. Alexander, gently but firmly stating that it's Ms. Alexander. If men's marital status is not identified by their title, neither should women's.
I am a feminist -- as the old NOW slogan on my refrigerator says, "feminism is the radical idea that women are people."

I don't understand the idea cited in today's article that having one family name lends to family unity or disunity. Our love and commitment could not be stronger.

 
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From: djavsicas  2/6/2006 7:23 pm 
To: Chana  Poll (5 of 7) 
 6.5 in reply to 6.2 

My male perspective: When I got married, I wanted a family that shared a last name. I grew up in a close family with the same last name, and it was meaningful to me that our new family might share one. It just fit with my own image of a family. My wife, on the other hand, wanted to keep her last name and felt no obligation to give it up (if anything, she felt a slight desire to push back at tradition). She didn't feel a strong pull to have a mono-surname family either. So, I took her name.

Many people presume that I "have a quarrel with my family" (to quote the judge who approved my name change) or that I am completely subservient to my wife (even though I suggested the idea). Neither is the case at all. Many people react favorably--especially my mostly female colleagues--but some act as though I agreed to self-castration.

I think there is a symbolic beauty in the practice of taking on a spouse's name which unfortunately gets a bad rap due to its historical one-sidedness (as evidenced by the lack of a masculine version of "maiden name," which has led to some funny reactions to forms that I fill out). Just as a multi-surnamed family is no less a unified family due to their naming practices, I certainly don't think I have become the property of my wife, rejected my family, or given up my individual identity because I wanted our family to share a name. I doubt that a woman would feel a sense of aquiesence or anti-feminism in taking her spouse's name were it equally likely that her husband would take hers.

 
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From: Guest 2/6/2006 7:59 pm 
To: djavsicas  Poll (6 of 7) 
 6.6 in reply to 6.5 
My husband considered changing his surname to mine when we got married, but decided not to because a guy with that name used to beat him up all the time when he was growing up. ;-)
 
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From: Chana  2/8/2006 7:47 pm 
To: djavsicas unread  Poll (7 of 7) 
 6.7 in reply to 6.5 
I understand why you did what you did, and certainly everyone has the right to change their name. But personally, I don't feel EITHER partner needs change their name. I would not have wanted my husband to take my name because I feel he should be just as proud of his heritage as I am of mine.
 
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