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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:29 pm 
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I know that Charlie isn't big on mixing up the lineup (especially in the playoffs), but I do think we need to make it harder on the Yankees lefty starters & also harder on the Yankees in how they handle their bullpen.

Saw a similar idea in an article on espn.com.

How about the following:

Jimmy
Utley
Werth
Howard
Francisco
Raul
Feliz
Ruiz
Victorino

What do you all think?

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From: pkrplr2  Nov-3 6:30 pm 
To: AndyS  (2 of 24) 
 95469.2 in reply to 95469.1 
bottom part almost sound like the mets line up. si?
 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:32 pm 
To: pkrplr2  (3 of 24) 
 95469.3 in reply to 95469.2 

I like having Vic hitting 9th to turn over the lineup - like another leadoff hitter.

And I love having Raul DH & having Francisco in LF.

Wouldn't surprise me AT ALL to see Ben Francisco have a big hit tomorrow.

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From: Jenius  Nov-3 6:33 pm 
To: AndyS  (4 of 24) 
 95469.4 in reply to 95469.1 
i suggested this and was called a moron. werth before howard makes sense and id move ruiz to sixth or seventh
 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:34 pm 
To: Jenius  (5 of 24) 
 95469.5 in reply to 95469.4 
Especially against the 2 lefty starters.

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From: pattymac  Nov-3 6:38 pm 
To: AndyS  (6 of 24) 
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I heard somewhere today that Charlie says Raul hits better when he plays the field and he thinks the dh messes with Raul's offense. It might be possible he makes Ben the dh and keeps Raul in the field but who knows.
 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:39 pm 
To: pattymac  (7 of 24) 
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If Raul were healthy, I'd be more OK with that.

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From: luck005  Nov-3 6:43 pm 
To: pattymac  (8 of 24) 
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I wish Charlie didnt feel that way because Raul, since his injury, has been a bit slow in the outfield.
 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:44 pm 
To: luck005  (9 of 24) 
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Not knocking Raul, but I think Francisco makes that catch last night.

Of course, if Vic's finger was all jacked-up, it's a moot point.

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From: pattymac  Nov-3 6:44 pm 
To: AndyS  (10 of 24) 
 95469.10 in reply to 95469.7 
He did make one mistake but has made several nice plays. I prefer his arm over Ben's. I remember Pat the bat saying he hated the dh because it threw him off. I would prefer to see Raul have a shot at having a better offensive night then worry about if he is going to make an error. He has only had what 4 all year.
 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:46 pm 
To: pattymac  (11 of 24) 
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I didn't think he messed up; he just couldn't catch it.

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From: pattymac  Nov-3 6:46 pm 
To: luck005  (12 of 24) 
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I guess we will see but like Andy said if Vic can't play then it won't make any difference anyway because Ben will be playing center
 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:47 pm 
To: pattymac  (13 of 24) 
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As of now they are saying that Shane will play.

I have a hard time believing that it won't affect him @ the plate, though.

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From: bakanekimiwa  Nov-3 6:48 pm 
To: AndyS  (14 of 24) 
 95469.14 in reply to 95469.1 

he said he's not gonna change it. plus, victorino is not guaranteed to play. we'll find out tomorrow. he said he'd probably play francisco in center, if that's the case.

i don't get that.. i'd move werth to center and francisco to right. but, either way.. who'd our DH? left-handed stairs vs. lefty pettitte?

or... god forbid.. mountain man bruntlet?

 
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From: bakanekimiwa  Nov-3 6:49 pm 
To: luck005  (15 of 24) 
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well, he made an outstanding catch in gm2, don't forget. and last night.. he could have, should have, had that ball.. bounced off the top of his glove.
 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:50 pm 
To: bakanekimiwa  (16 of 24) 
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Let's just hope Shane is good to go.

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From: bakanekimiwa  Nov-3 6:51 pm 
To: AndyS  (17 of 24) 
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i hope so, but, it's concerning to think about his batting. he didn't look like he could really swing the bat last night.. after that.

he didn't have to make a huge throw from center, but you have to figure it would affect that as well.

 
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From: AndyS  Nov-3 6:52 pm 
To: bakanekimiwa  (18 of 24) 
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Hopefully the day off (and a lot of ice) will help.

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From: luck005  Nov-3 7:58 pm 
To: bakanekimiwa  (19 of 24) 
 95469.19 in reply to 95469.15 
He does make the occasional great catch, but usually they are plays that a Francisco would get to routinely. It was the same with Burrell.
 
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From: sports1  Nov-3 10:26 pm 
To: AndyS  (20 of 24) 
 95469.20 in reply to 95469.1 
Not a bad idea at all. But, do you really want Francisco batting fifth?
 
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