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From: Philsucker  Nov-2 11:32 pm 
To: ALL  (1 of 69) 
 95364.1 

1: Not putting Franscisco in Left
2: Pulling Park for Stairs
3: Not Bunting Ruiz over to try and steal another run
4:Putting Madson in

For those that want to dump Myers, he may be our only viable future closer.

 
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From: allegrabene  Nov-2 11:33 pm 
To: Philsucker  (2 of 69) 
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because you never know when the moment will be right
 
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From: PhillyFan927  Nov-2 11:33 pm 
To: Philsucker  (3 of 69) 
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Well, THAT was a rather unfortunate choice of thread title...

"You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later." -- Mitch Hedberg

THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES: YOUR 2008 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

THE WAIT FOR A WINNER IS FINALLY OVER!

 
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From: Tasker  Nov-2 11:33 pm 
To: Philsucker  (4 of 69) 
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And that's just the last two innings of the last game...
 
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From: allegrabene  Nov-2 11:34 pm 
To: PhillyFan927  (5 of 69) 
 95364.5 in reply to 95364.3 
you'd think they'd be few and far between
 
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From: krukster  Nov-2 11:34 pm 
To: Philsucker  (6 of 69) 
 95364.6 in reply to 95364.1 

<<For those that want to dump Myers, he may be our only viable future closer.>>

Agreed. Myers at least has guts. Madson and Lidge look like they have born to lose written all over them.

 
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From: vella  Nov-2 11:35 pm 
To: Philsucker  (7 of 69) 
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Agree with #1 & #2.

Disagree with #3 & #4.

 
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From: PhillyFan927  Nov-2 11:35 pm 
To: allegrabene  (8 of 69) 
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Do you think he has to see a doctor if the game lasts longer than four hours?

"You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later." -- Mitch Hedberg

THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES: YOUR 2008 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

THE WAIT FOR A WINNER IS FINALLY OVER!

 
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From: Teaboss  Nov-2 11:35 pm 
To: Philsucker  (9 of 69) 
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PS,

Not putting Francisco in left nearly cost them. He truly, despite being a players manager, is a dumb person. You don't give players time off to heal when your life is on the line. You are playing the NY Yankees here not the Pirates. Unbelievable! It's hilarious his players know what needs to be done but he doesn't.

 
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From: allegrabene  Nov-2 11:36 pm 
To: PhillyFan927  (10 of 69) 
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that was classic my friend. i just woke up half the neighbor laughing at that.
 
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From: cosmo21  Nov-3 1:27 am 
To: PhillyFan927  (11 of 69) 
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Great reply!!

From the thread title it gives you the impression they put Viagra in Charlies Gatorade.

 
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From: phillies20  Nov-3 1:42 am 
To: Philsucker  (12 of 69) 
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Pulling Park? Putting in Madson? What would you have liked him to do?
 
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From: bakanekimiwa  Nov-3 1:48 am 
To: Philsucker  (13 of 69) 
 95364.13 in reply to 95364.1 

I've never been on the side to trash Charlie before, but that was a poorly managed game. we should have never been in a save situation.

leaving Lee in for the 8th.. bad. not using bruntlet to buntlet.. bad. taking out victorino without asking him.. bad. not putting in Francisco for D upgrade... very bad.

and I was sure girardi would make all the mistakes... we've made it very easy on him.

 
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From: Philsucker  Nov-3 6:21 am 
To: phillies20 unread  (14 of 69) 
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Park had good stuff, bunt Ruiz over and ride him into the ninth. Park was the long guy. Two innings is nothing. Why bring in a guy who one, can't close, Two who typically puts the leadoff hitter on base and three has no heart. If Madson's your guy then I can only respect but disagree with your opinion.
 
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From: Tasker  Nov-3 7:12 am 
To: krukster  (15 of 69) 
 95364.15 in reply to 95364.6 

"Myers at least has guts"

Question is does he still have a fastball...

 
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From: bigtim27  Nov-3 7:18 am 
To: Philsucker  (16 of 69) 
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You realize we won the game last night right?
 
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From: 9inningguy  Nov-3 7:26 am 
To: Philsucker  (17 of 69) 
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Phil,

Charlie has made mistakes. So does every other manager.
At this moment, he is two games away from winning the World Series. Will it happen, who knows ?
He has a patched up pitching staff, and got them this far.
What in the world do you expect of him ?

To worry about dumping Myers ? Who at this time gives a dam- if he goes or stays or goes ?
Right now, that's not an issue.

Wait until the Series is decided to speculate.

..9..

 
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From: majik  Nov-3 7:36 am 
To: bakanekimiwa  (18 of 69) 
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Victorino or Ibanez weren't going to bat in the 8th, it should have been a no-brainer to put Francisco in left. If Charlie was that concerned about Vic, he should have pulled him in the 2nd inning.

Even though the Phils won, why wasn't Eyre out there to start the 9th? I would rather have Posada batting RH and then have Matsui facing the lefty.

 
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From: NYPhilsFan  Nov-3 7:36 am 
To: Philsucker  (19 of 69) 
 95364.19 in reply to 95364.1 
Do you still piss your bed at night?
If you think pulling Park after 1 inning and putting in Madson for the save were "boners", than you don't know jack about this team. Keep your Mom dry and invest in some night-time Depends.
 
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From: eleven24  Nov-3 8:54 am 
To: Philsucker  (20 of 69) 
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IN DEFENSE of Charlie, we don't know how bad Vic's finger was. While it seemed on TV that it was ok to play with, and maybe even getting a bit better as the game went on, we don't know. What would people be saying this morning if Victorino tries throwing to 2nd base to keep a runner to a single and because of the finger the ball sails and the runner ends up on 3rd?

We'd be torturing him for NOT taking out Vic. In that situation Manuel had more information to make his decision on (replacing Vic) than we did.

That being said, there have been quite a few questionable moves by Chol. I'm just saying that with Vic, we might not all know the whole story.


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