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From: Barnard  Oct-23 12:24 pm 
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Survey finds Christianity on the decline -- even in the South

Christian faith still flourishes in the Bible Belt -- but there, like elsewhere, it's in decline.

That's one of the findings of the 2008 American Religious Identification Survey released this week. The study is especially valuable because it tracks trends over time -- previous reports were done in 1990 and 2001 -- and draws on a rich volume of data (in 2008, questionnaires of 54,400 people).

The big finding of the report is that Protestant Christians are in decline:
The percentage of Christians in America, which declined in the 1990s from 86.2 percent to 76.7 percent, has now edged down to 76 percent. Ninety percent of the decline comes from the non-Catholic segment of the Christian population, largely from the mainline denominations, including Methodists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Episcopalians/Anglicans, and the United Church of Christ.

The number of Catholics is declining as well, but not nearly as much largely because losses in the Northeast have been balanced out by a growth of Catholics -- fueled by new immigrants -- in the South and Southwest. (Perhaps Christians have Latinos and other new immigrants to thank from keeping church values alive.)

Believe what you will but don't let a few little disagreeable facts annoy you. It appears that Thomas Jefferson's assertion to John Adams, third president to the second, just might finally come to fruition:

"the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding"

~Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, from Monticello, April 11, 1823; Lester J. Cappon, ed., <A href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0807842303/">The Adams-Jefferson Letters: The Complete Correspondence~

 
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From: SanchoP  Oct-23 12:34 pm 
To: Barnard  (2 of 13) 
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Memento mori...
 
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From: moondust  Oct-24 10:33 pm 
To: Barnard  (3 of 13) 
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And Islam is on the rise. Have at it.
 
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From: SanchoP  Oct-26 10:46 am 
To: moondust  (4 of 13) 
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He's OK with Islam. He was abused by a Christian preacher, not an Imam.
 
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From: moondust  Oct-26 8:27 pm 
To: SanchoP  (5 of 13) 
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Good point, Sancho.
 
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From: Barnard  Oct-30 12:27 pm 
To: SanchoP  (6 of 13) 
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"He's OK with Islam. He was abused by a Christian preacher, not an Imam."

You forget...I was Baptist, not Catholic like you.

It has been documented for decades that priests, bishops, cardinals, the pope et al are really fascinated by the johnson packages of infants and small boys.

 
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From: SanchoP  Oct-30 5:21 pm 
To: Barnard  (7 of 13) 
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Did you get ridden by the Pope? Holy Ned Beatty! That's something! Did he go to Tennessee, or did you go to Rome?
 
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From: Barnard  Oct-30 6:29 pm 
To: SanchoP  (8 of 13) 
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"Did you get ridden by the Pope? Holy Ned Beatty! That's something! Did he go to Tennessee, or did you go to Rome?"

The way you are so hung up on that preacher riding stuff I figured your bung hole was essentially worn out.

I repeat...no Baptist preacher has ever held a candle to the "rub them beads" "sling that smoke jug" crew.

 
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From: SanchoP  Oct-30 7:54 pm 
To: Barnard  (9 of 13) 
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<...no Baptist preacher has ever held a candle...>

The only thruth you have told so far. Baptist preachers don't hold candles.

 
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From: Barnard  Nov-14 6:22 am 
To: SanchoP  (10 of 13) 
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Au contraire, mon capitan! I was a Baptist most of my life. According to their beliefs I still am. They hold candle lighting ceremonies constantly...especially on the holidays.
 
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From: SanchoP  Nov-16 1:44 pm 
To: Barnard  (11 of 13) 
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There is a difference between lighting a candle and holding one. Everybody lights candles. After all, up to 150 years ago, it was the only artificial lighting available.

My wife is constantly lighting perfumed candles at home. Does that make our living room a church?

 
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From: moondust  Nov-17 9:35 am 
To: Barnard  (12 of 13) 
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Your mom uses candles. For other purposes, from what I've been told.
 
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From: Barnard  Nov-18 11:26 am 
To: moondust  (13 of 13) 
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LOL!

Like I said...you'd be headless if I could reach your scurvy arse.

 
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