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| From: | SanchoP | Oct-21 3:07 pm |
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The principal suspect in last Saturday's masacre in Puerto Rico, Alexis Candelario, had been recently released from prison after serving five years of a 12-year sentence for five counts of first -degree murder. That amounts to one year for each of the murders! He is out on parole, although now, he faces a count of parole violation for the seven murders he committed last Saturday (plus 20 wounded). Our lenient judges should learn a lesson from this: Give a violent criminal a short sentence, and you place many innocent people at risk. |
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| | | | | 12539.2 in reply to 12539.1 | |
| What they should do is stop filling our prisons with those who are involved in drug violations and leave murderers, rapists and child sex offenders in there till they rot. People will get their drugs anyway so why don't we control and tax them? |
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| | | | | 12539.3 in reply to 12539.2 | |
I don't disagree, except that one should take into account the fact that the drug trade generates most of the murders nowadays. Add to the people left to rot anyone who introduces a person into drug use. It's the same as murder, only slower. A fair summary sentence for anyone caught selling drugs should be to force him to consume all the drugs he gets caught selling all in one shot. Get caught selling a lot, die of an OD. Get caught selling little, feel the pain you have caused. |
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| | | | | 12539.4 in reply to 12539.3 | |
Our neighbor's 19 year old got nailed for selling a half ounce of weed. Entrapped is more like it. It was part of bargain another kid made with a local police department in order to get a reduced charge. What did our neighbor's kid have to do? Same thing, find someone else to turn in. Worst part is, a new DA took over and threw out his deal. Thousands in legal expenses on both sides for what? A half ounce of pot. No real criminals off the street and three reputations ruined. What's wrong with this picture? |
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| | | | | 12539.5 in reply to 12539.4 | |
Well, if the kid got scared out of the drug trade, it was money well spent. Stories abound in my neighborhood of kids turning others in is exchange for lenient sentences. Unfortunately, most end with the informant murdered shortly thereafter. There is no honor amongst drug dealers, only retaliation. Selling pot has killed infinitely more people than smoking it. One of my neighbors caught her son selling pot after school one day. She tried to get him out of that trap, but the allure of easy money was too tempting for a 15 yr old kid. He lived to be 17. A rival drug peddler shot him dead while claiming "the corner" as his. |
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| | | | | 12539.6 in reply to 12539.3 | |
The idea behind decriminalization is that is removes the traffickers from the equation thereby eliminating the violence generated by them similar to the repeal of alcohol prohibition removing the criminal element from the trade of spirits. However, to do so completely you would have to legalize all drugs, which I can’t condone. My company provides hazardous waste services for the DEA mostly meth labs so I have seen the dark side of those heavy drugs. However, marijuana never should have been criminalized in the first place. Our government wastes money-enforcing laws, trying cases and imprisonment for such offenses. Of course if we look at completely logically the war on drugs has been a dismal failure. Street prices have not drastically changed over the years, which indicates that the supply is steady. If there is a demand someone will get it in. “A fair summary sentence for anyone caught selling drugs should be to force him to consume all the drugs he gets caught selling all in one shot. Get caught selling a lot, die of an OD. Get caught selling little, feel the pain you have caused.” A little frontier justice? Always nice to dream. Your story points out the flaws of a progressive justice system. The criminals have more rights. However, we have evolved beyond medieval times so this is what we are stuck with. Don’t want to be lopping off hands for theft. There is no perfect solution. Of course if they released a multi-murderer the officers of that court should be the next to be incarcerated. |
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| | | | | 12539.7 in reply to 12539.5 | |
<<<Well, if the kid got scared out of the drug trade, it was money well spent.>>> He never considered it. He was hounded into it by someone else who needed to turn someone in. Finally, he said, "ok, I'll get you some weed." He's facing a felony conviction. It's poor police work and a bastardization of our justice system. I'm sorry but pot should just be legalized. In California, they'd have looked the other way. This was all about a detective and DA trying to bolster their arrest and conviction rates. |
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| | | | | 12539.8 in reply to 12539.7 | |
What you narrate is an open-and-shut case of entrapment that would not last ten minutes in a court of law. I hope these are the facts, for this kid's sake. If not, he has some trouble ahead. OTOH, I was a Federal agent once, and cannot recall a single case sent to the DA by my office that did not get followed by an allegation of entrapment from the accused party. Just knowing that it was coming kept us on our toes. |
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| | | | | 12539.9 in reply to 12539.6 | |
"The idea behind decriminalization is that is removes the traffickers from the equation thereby eliminating the violence generated by them similar to the repeal of alcohol prohibition removing the criminal element from the trade of spirits. "
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. I bought $5.00 a pint moonshine in Oklahoma when it was the last dry state. You had to go around to the back of a little white house, drive up and blow your horn. The law enforcers were receiving 20% of everything sold. Every cab driver in the United States had a dozen half pints under their front seat and could take you to someone who would sell you a 12 bottle case in ten minutes. The same concept went on after hours in states which had repealed prohibition for at least twenty more years...especially in the south. |
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| | | | | 12539.11 in reply to 12539.10 | |
"I always knew you were an alchie.."
Ol' CyberPsychic strikes again! |
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| | | | | 12539.12 in reply to 12539.11 | |
| Your mom likes her moonshine when I bang her. I guess booze runs in your family. LOLOL! |
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| | | | | 12539.13 in reply to 12539.8 | |
<<<What you narrate is an open-and-shut case of entrapment that would not last ten minutes in a court of law. I hope these are the facts, for this kid's sake. If not, he has some trouble ahead.>>> It is, of course, possible I'm not getting the complete story. However, I've read it's very difficult to be acquitted using an entrapment defense in PA. In this case, just the fact the kid was known to smoke pot may be enough to counter an entrapment defense. |
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| | | | | 12539.14 in reply to 12539.12 | |
| His mom's in her 80's. What kind of sicko are you? |
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| | | | | 12539.15 in reply to 12539.13 | |
| Throw the punk in jail for a few years. He sounds like trouble. |
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| | | | | 12539.16 in reply to 12539.14 | |
"His moms in her 80s" Sounds like you know her? LMFAO!!
Edited 11/19/2009 4:11 pm ET by Mike_T |
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| | | | | 12539.18 in reply to 12539.15 | |
LOL! What I was thinking.....spare the rod, spoil the child!!! And hey, the kid will thank you later in life! |
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| | | | | 12539.19 in reply to 12539.18 | |
| It's hilarious how the liberals make excuses for their delinquent, punk kids. Or they justify it by saying "Oh, pot should be legal!" LMFAO!! |
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| | | | | 12539.20 in reply to 12539.13 | |
It is indeed possible you're not getting the whole story. I don't know your source about the entrapment defense in PA, but the DA would reject our submissions on even the remotest possibility of entrapment. The cases I know first-hand went to Federal Court. So the kid smokes pot. I drink whiskey. Does that make me a bootlegger? If justice is that skewed in PA, It's about time someone did something about it. I would suggest starting with doing away with judicial elections. They are a joke. |
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