Dude, they moved the start time up to 5 PM. The game is just about a matineee. This is to be expected.

Let's see... a Monday afternoon at 5pm after Halloween weekend with the Phillies playing for their World Series lives at home in Game 5.

Yea, great point, no idea why there are still tickets available...

Yeah, because during worst season in Flyers history (2006-07) they still were 7th best in the league as far as attendance, selling 95% of capacity.

The Flyers have a lot to worry about.

Correction: 98.9% capacity at home. The 95% was home and road combined.

the flyers have a team expected by many to go very deep into the playoffs, and they have thousands of empty and unsold tickets for every game...yea, it's all good....if you don't think those bean counters down at the bank building are #### their pants over this, i can't help you.

the league has had an NHL team admit in court documents it totally exaggerated (translation:lied) about it's attendance figures...so again, when the flyers say 1700 it's more, book it.....just wait, it's going to get worse...

are you people seriously disagreeing with me, or just don't have anything else to do this afternoon? it's bad and it's going to get worse.

Let's start over, cause I don't follow you and I think I may have went too far with my sarcasm.

I think that the 5pm start has alot to do with it, but also there is alot more empty seats down there then I remember in the past. If/when the team starts to put together a string of wins though, I think that will fix it self.

We're not talking about the Sixers here, LOL.

"LOL. thank you for understanding better than me the "point" of my post."

uh... right... your original post was nothing more than a gripe about there being tickets available for tonight.

No one's disagreeing with you literally (I'm not at least), but you won't get much conversation generated being such a condescending douche.

Your point was here -- http://forums.philly.com/kr-flyers/messages?msg=59917.3 -- and I responded to it.

I agree with you that there's a problem and there are a myriad of reasons. Again, world series takes precedence in October, unfortunately the Eagles are still highest on most people's lists until their annual overachieving run and their inevitable collapse, people are cutting expenses and ticket and parking prices are another season higher, and the Flyers just haven't been as good as advertised thus far.

Yea, they say there are only 1700 tickets which is probably an exaggeration, but it's also a marketing ploy at the same time... you know.. "get yours before they're all gone" kinda thing? Maybe you're reading into it too much?

Either way, it's a problem that one of the league's biggest revenue-generating franchises is having trouble selling tickets.

I'll add to this thread. Sure, tonight there is a Phillies World Series game and the Flyers start at 5...but just a week or two ago, there were 1,500 tickets available for a Saturday night game vs Florida. I went to the game and there were easily more than a thousand empty seats. It was obvious. The fans who were there seemed bored. I have never heard a more quiet Wachovia Center than that game. They won the game by several goals, but still - something didn't seem right.

There was no World Series game that night and again, it was a Saturday night. In 2006 I don't remember that many empty seats.

I think it will pick up when the World Series is over but it's definitely not just baseball...it's the economy and a terrible product. Look no further than the thread where diehard fans on here are complaining about the boring product and how they flip the channel just to stay awake.

Hopefully this is just because it's October/November but I have never seen it this bad.